And I quote:
"This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians, 6 million Jews and 1,900 Catholic priests, who were murdered, massacred, raped, burned, starved and humiliated!"
Odd that they lump in the 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians and 1,900 Catholic priests into the holocaust, when most times it is the "6 million" Jews that matter to them. Does the 10 million Christian total include the German troop deaths, who were mostly Christian? Do they include the millions of German civilians killed by the RCAF, RAF, and USAF bombing raids?
"Now, more than ever, with Iraq, Iran, and others, claiming the HOLOCAUST to be 'a myth', It is imperative to make sure the world NEVER forgets, because there are others who would like to do it again."
Most times you can add my name to the list of "holocaust deniers".
The total of 6 millions deaths is now widely held to be exaggerated. Most of the deaths in places like Bergen-Belsen occurred after they were liberated by Allied forces. Some camps were next to factories, where the camp population were employed as slave labour, hence the nazis had some benefit in keeping these workers alive enough to be able to work; although it can be argued that with a seemingly endless supply of slave labour from Jews, Russian POWs, and the like, maybe they could just work them to death in a couple of months or weeks; but would it not also make sense to keep the trained workers alive? A case in point is the workers at Dora and associated camps. After Peenemuende was bombed, the nazis relied on slave labour to make some of the most sophisticated weapons of the war at Dora. Although I suppose after a bit when these workers could see the end of the line for them, the degree of shoddy workmanship or out and out sabotage would inevitable rise. And of course the US never cared about the deaths of workers, as long as they got their hands on Werner Von Braun and his scientists. Nazis of his type, and even lesser, were hanged after the Nurnberg Trials, but Von Braun and his scientists (and I dare say their families) got a free ticket to the land of the free.
Google Operation Paperclip if you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Also, if Auschwitz-Birkenau only reason to exist was to eliminate Jews, how come there are so many Auschwitz survivors out there. And that goes for the rest of the so called Death Camps.
Really - I suppose the reason I'm wishy-washy about the whole affair is that this type of thing has happened many times over the ages. Armenians in Turkey, Serbians by the Croatian Ustache during WW2, and the whole Rwandan thing are some of the more modern types of "holocausts", that have happened. The bible is full of stories of killing every man, woman, and child of a city or area.
But any time you bring up something against the state of Israel or any Jews anywhere, they play the holocaust card. The anti-semantic card. The I bet you are also a holocaust denier card. Now, scmucks like me don't care what most people think about me, but most folks do, especially governments. I just wonder when the world can start treating Israel and Jews like everybody else?
Of course a discussion like this wouldn't be complete if the issue of why the nazis considered them to be so evil that the only solution (Final Solution) was to jam them into train cars and send them to Auschwitz or the other camps. Well, I will attempt to tackle this. The sudden end of WW1 was apparently due to the labour unions (mostly Communist Jews) decision to strike, which meant the supply of BBB to the front lurched to a halt. Don't forget that old Adolfus was at the front in WW1. The state of the German country and economy between the wars was most dreadful. Private armies fought each other and together fought the communists, and etc. Inflation was out of control, I'm sure you have heard the stories where a loaf of bread cost a bezillion marks or what ever. The country was ready for civil war, and the world knew it. The newly formed Soviet state readily supported the German communists, and as previously stated, the German groups frequently fought each other. The time was set for someone to unite the right against the communists. That it was an Austrian corporal (albeit decorated in WW1) that was a failure at his chosen field (artist) was only a surprise to the west. The money of Germany (IG Farben, BMW,Kraus Maffie, Porsche, etc,) recognized that this Austrian Corporal, who by this time had moved to Munich, and had been involved/accepted into right wing parties, could be the saviour they needed. It really didn't matter who it was, as long as it was a right wing leaning fanatic. By this time, Adolf was hanging out in beer halls with fellow WW1 veterans formulating plans to get back at the Communists, and the worst possible thing for them - Jewish Communists. Adolf was obviously a lowly educated monkey who the banks could squeeze for their own means.
So as he gradually brought right wing groups together, with the common goal of getting rid of the Communists, he was approached by a representative of money, German money, and I mean serious German money. What could Adolf do? The people who really controlled the country was offering him their support, which would place him into the political race to lead Germany. Now he had some power, and with that the impulse for absolute power.
So he started a re-armament process, which the weapon industry could make loads of government bucks. Of course that was against the agreement that ended WW1, but he didn't care. Unfortunately neither did Britain or USA. I'm not sure but they may have brought it up to the League of Nations (United Nations forerunner), but this worldwide organization was castrated from real power, which unfortunately led to the totally testiclelessness of the UN, but I will spare you all my hatred for the UN.
But he needed to unite the German folk. After all the communists were German, and by now his Brownshirts had all but eliminated that as threat. The next choice of scapegoat was obvious; the Jewish community. I do believe that nobody has liked the Jews for at least 3000 years, and it was true that some of them controlled some part of German financial business. With the communist threat all but beaten, Adolf turned his aim to the Jews. He and his political party henchmen devised a plan of hatred against the Jews. And I would think it was fairly easy.. The Jews were seen to be involved with the disgraceful end of WW1 and the hated Versailles Treaty. Apparently most of the German Jews owned banks and jewellery store, most rich jobs. So I figure it was relatively easy to unite the right and also common folks to blame everything on the Jews.
In any crisis, if you have someone else to blame, then action is easier to start. The nazi party, which by now had ended all facades of being anything else but a right wing nationalist party, had built a platform of German Aryan pride, and lowly Jewish Hatred.
I don't know enough about the history of Jews to really have an opinion about them. Just last year I found out that Jesus was a jew. And for some reason Jewish religion was some how against Christian and RC religions. And that the Romans nailed old JC to a cross, and then for some reason, Italy and Rome turned into a religion that is now known throughout the globe, Roman Catholics. And now I believe that the RC church system is much more evil than the nazis could ever be. After all the nazis only lasted from about 1930 to 1945, a scant 15 years. And the RCs have lasted for at least 1000 years, and have turned many native cultures into believing that some fur faced hook nosed red sea pedestrian died for their sins, and your only reward was if you wore a condom during sex you would go to hell. To me, to see Roman Catholics being forced unto native populations, when they has survived for hundreds of years worshipping the land itself, or whatever, is the ultimate sin for these RC things... Whoa,,,, I'm getting off subject a bit.
Any hoo, the Jews were picked to by the catalyst that united Germany to a common enemy. Of course all the western countries had their agents in Germany reporting on the situation. At this time none of the Western countries really cared for the Jews. Remember when a boatload of Jews landed in the states (NYC maybe?) and the authorities turned them away? Well I'm making a bit of a leap here, but 70 some years later,,,,,, this country of Canada is accepting common criminals from Asia, Africa (especially Somalis, smelly criminals the bunch), and every fucking kind of immigrant who cries that he will be killed if he goes back to his shiite hole cuntry. I'm glad and saddened because these shitheads all live in places like Montreal, Toronto, Winnipeg (maybe), Asian gangs in Calgary and Edmonton, and of course Asia's new capital, Vancouver. They come to this great nation and bring their fuckery among them. Honour killings? What the fuck. How Canada can accept these savages, while the Unemployed rate is so high - mystifies me. But then again most Canadians don't want to work the jobs that immigrants will do.. Most unemployed Canadians do serious work to try to keep those EI benefits coming. And the problem is, a job at a fast food store or a corner store, doesn't pay as much as EI, or welfare and they get to sit on their ass, making babies (yet more money), do drugs and drink themselves into some sort of self respecting idiot. One of my single mom female cousins used to get paid money for babysitting so she could get out and enjoy herself. It is the Maritime way, why waste energy when you can get along with welfare and all. These poor bastards are indeed unfortunate, most of them smoke (which I believe is quite pricey) due to the fact that they can't smoke pot all day. And somehow welfare recipients can afford a box of beer of a jug of whiskey to get them through the week. WOW, I'm getting off track again..
So, Adolf, supported by big money (who never really lost that much after WW1) had the power he dreamt of. The German money men continued to make deals with the USA throughout the War. Business is Business, after all. So while he carried on with the demonization of the Jews, he also thought ahead for plans to take back historical German lands.. Hence he took over Alsace from France, the Sudetenland in Czech republic and totally annexed Austria. All these lands had significant German populations. And those populations definitely prospered by becoming citizens with full rights, compared to the second class citizens they were before.
Of course during this the population mostly jumped on the bandwagon to blame the Jews for everything from the nailing of JC on a cross to their unwillingness to eat pork products. Now, I will be serious..... I don't understand why Jews and Muslims think of pork as unclean. I've seen both groups eat a variety of food groups, except for pork.... We all know that Germany loves schnitzel and brockies, could it really be that simple. Could the leader of Hamas, and the rest of the middle east Palestinian/Muslim assholes be brought to the peace table if the appetizers were all pork? They say it is unclean, but all beasts tend to wallow in the mud and their own poop.
Yes, a large order of Bacon Cheese burgers could unite the middle east! Hurrah! Of course if the Jews and Muslims join forces over there, there would be no end of their involvement in Canada. Luckily it would probably be in the cities.
Where the heck was I? Oh, yea the "holocaust"....
Adolf had accomplished his short term goals: he united all German peoples to a bigger and better, er ,, thing.
But their existed Prussia, that bit of Germany that was deep in Poland.. you may have heard about the Prussian forces and officers and all that crap... Again this was a Germanic part of Europe, and to Hitler, who had won his plan for greater Germany so far without a shot being fired, this was the obvious next step. Unfortunately Prussia lay deep in Polish land, and the Poles had no desire to give the connecting land to Germany or any body else..... So to Adolf, and his Generals, this was a different sort of land grab than the other ones.. Prussia was already theirs, and to win the Polish part of the country to once again link Germany to the Prussian Aristocrats and Officers (whatever, keep in mind that Stansky was a Prussian). So it would not be so easy in Poland.... But, like the Grinch, they thought of a plan, and they thought it up quick.
An age old plan where they staged an attack against them on the Polish/German border. Dress up some prisoners in Polish Uniforms (Could have been the first purchase on E-Bay, take them to a border post and kill them, thus proving to the world that Poland had attacked Germany. It made no difference to anybody that it was ridiculous, the point was made.... Unfortunately, his luck ran out, and the rest of the world supported Poland and declared war against Germany... note.. Canada waited until one day after Britain declared war, so we wouldn't seem like we were a obedient child of Britain.
So World War 2 has started. Britain and France had declared war against Germany, and I suppose the rest of the British Empire and the French Empire..I think that France had a little empire going, but I'm not sure.
Hitler's plan had hit a speed bump..... He collected the will of his nation to demand takeover of traditional Germanic lands. After all, after the insulting Versailles Treaty, and the general belief that the victory of WW1 was taken away by communists, and the worst Jewish communists.
It has been well reported that Adolf wished that he and Churchill would come to a compromise to settle the war.. Let's face it, neither one of the countries had much sympathy for France. And when the British empire showed signs of falling apart, the government could identify with the German plans to unite all the Germanic folks into one great country.. Prussia was, and is, a very important part of the German nation. It still makes headlines today. the Polish have changed the name of the capital after the war.
We come to the war in general..... The money men of Germany are obviously making money with all the stealing of Jewish bank accounts and also the massive re-arming of the army. USA has not got involved with the war, and the money men behind that thing they call USA are making money hand over fist... The German money men kept an open channel with the USA money men. What is shocking is that they carried on these deals after the USA joined the war in Dec 1941.
That is the shocking part of WW2, and probably WW1,, The money men who supported the supposed leader of a country, are so far in dealing with the other countries, whether friend or foe, are only focused on making money..
How else could the country of Germany, who got sold out by Jewish Communists in 1918, could re-arm them selves to become the biggest army in Europe? Is all MONEY.... and spin..
The allies had no problem with German concentration camps until they needed to sway public support. Remember that the phrase "concentration camp" came from the British Army in the Boer war.. And ask any Asian who went to the camps in the west coast how they feel about their treatment.
The Israelis continue to profit from their holocaust label. The rich Jewish US folks continue to bark about their mistreatment. The Israeli Government needs a hug, and if that doesn't work, I don't know. Apparently the country of Israel was forced upon the palestinians, not just forced but stolen... Well after 50 some years, I would make an effort to like my new place, if I were those palestines.
Well my major point is that as soon as the "Holocaust" word comes up, the majority of folks can't bring them selves to face facts. WW2 was enabled by the big money players in every country. A hollow shell of a country, US, became the biggest manufacturer of weapons, ammo, tanks, and trucks , etc.
Why do I have these thoughts? You may be asking?
Well I've seen the effect of political administration.
The western treatment of the Serbs in the Bosnian War.
It was politically convenient to report that the Serbs were the bad guys.
This enabled US, and later Nato air strikes against a Sovereign nation.
The truth will be always be evident. The report of genocide by the muslims, in places like Schrebrenica, is only a fuckery. That it led US muslim friend Bill Clinton, and Madeline Albright to rage on about genocide is retarded.
Anyone who thinks the Serbs had a mission of genocide is a calf brained deadbeat.
And now there is news stories that rape is increasing in Haiti... That is a headline that will probably result in more aid.
I guess what I'm trying to tell you is that fuckery is everywhere. Sure I feel for the Jews and their suffering... But they aren't the only ones who have gone though that style of death...
The death camp at Jasanovac, runs by Roman Catholic Croatians, shocked the Germans in their treatment of Serbs, Jews, Gypsies. et al.
To end this rant, I say to you - Humans have been killing other humans for a long time now. I doubt we will stop it any time soon, there is too much to gain from it.
They say that time heals all wounds, but while folks are waiting for one wound to heal, the cycle of hatred starts all over again if they get another wound.
Mixed marriages/families or not, we are one small wound away from all out hatred and eventually war.
You never know when this type of thing will happen,,, do ya?
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